As many people across the United States may have seen on television, a pseudo-debate was hosted between Bill Nye and Ken Hamm. We won’t go into detailing who Bill Nye is because if you’re listening to this podcast you probably already know. On the other hand, Ken Hamm is a wealthy Australian best known for his creationist museums in the United States.

The two of them debated the age old question of intelligent design versus evolution. Jad and Kevin weigh in at a meta-level of how this kind of conversation still exists in 2014.

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